Than thinking of the gunner is different from thinking paratrooper, as the gunners maintain a record cold, standing in an open field, how Ukraine is one howitzer and for how much time will pay off expensive drone? In an interview with the Censor.NET said the fighter 55th separate artillery brigade Paul martsenyuk. Is the number of calculation howitzers. "I load the shells into the gun, then we ship them with a fiery Hello, where necessary," the brief explains his work.

In civilian life, the father of four children and the artist. Today its creative nature speak not only colorful mustache and modern Oseledets, but freedom-loving statements about the outdated thinking of many Ukrainian officers. His howitzer he stubbornly calls "abundant" and admits that not thrilled with the Soviet system, which was still in the Ukrainian army. "We are gradually corrected," he says. - The desire is there."

Today Paul and his battery again at the forefront in the thick of the fighting reflects enemy attacks. We were able to communicate with him in Zaporozhye on the eve of his return to the front after the rotation. In civilian life he had been a little over a month and it is recognized that during this time, tired of idleness. This was to be expected, because Paul belongs to the so-called about volunteers. Says that consciously asked it in the Armed forces.

Came the old system in the army to destroy from within. What we saw in the summer, it was poor and miserable. That is why I could not go to war. If we all sat on the citizen and chewed snot, they say let the army protects us, in Kiev would have been Putin, Russian flags and Nazi frenzy. So we put the army before the fact: "Dear Ukrainian army, now we will be there to serve."

WE WORKED OUT ALL THE SHELLS THAT HAD. THE INFANTRY THEN SAID A HUGE THANK YOU

- You have a regular divisional artillery. This means that unlike a jet, you are spot?

- Yes, we cover a particular purpose. When you need not skip their hordes on the offensive, our task is either quickly move and put the fire with a new point, or to stand in the fire, blocking their way. Therefore, the positions need to equip every day. Specifically, our battery constantly moved from place to place, often several times a day. Because, if our positions have noticed, it is fire.

- How much time did You spend on the front line?

- Directly on the front line I from August 23. First of our departure we were supported by troops under the Transfer. He then worked at night, but did not manage to reach one goal - in the morning of the 25th we were covered in the answer.

- We can say that the departure was not as effective as we would like?

- Why is it ineffective?!

The boiler still happened...

So we and opponents were many! In the first fight we got into the mix. For us "Grads" worked five hours, but we stopped them at that point. This gave time for the infantry to regroup. Of the two batteries we killed 2 people. It's awful, and for artillery such losses - a lot. Besides, we lost there half of their machines and implements.

Then we moved to block the road from Donetsk to Mariupol. In September it was true, as expected breakthrough. Then we went in the hot spot. Even three months ago, we remembered where he hit the tank, where machines or "Hail". Now all mixed up.

- Many fighters say that standing in the same place because of truce, to put it mildly, not inspiring. For you this is how it works?

When beginning an official truce, we just appears to work - give response to the attacks of the enemy. Not to say that all this time the artillery was pseudomona war. The picture on all fronts I don't know, we received the assignment from headquarters. But three months on the front lines without firing I can count more than five days. Remember that only in early September, immediately after the announcement of the armistice, we are a few days not worked. The last time we went, we were very densely fired. In the morning they rushed ahead, not knowing that we are on the way. Then we worked out all the shells that had. The infantry then said thank you very much.

- That is, our army is not shameful, and learned to fight?

If in July, it was really a shame, now we have at least some power. For several months we have managed to achieve incredible results, so we stopped the breakthrough at the end of August. First, it significantly increased the number of people able to fight. Moreover, it appeared that the enemy was even more shitty. Despite the fact that they have been preparing for years to attack us, they just astonishingly low level of training.

- What do you prove?

- The fact that I'm sitting here alive, but they cannot destroy us. They are better equipped than we regularly throw in Ukraine military units from Russia, cover us with his fire, use unmanned aircraft, which we have no... but little.

Often our opponents bring sight about. I was told by eyewitnesses, as separa put two buckets, between them, can make a rough focusing and shooting. Projectiles them Putin sends Nemer. And then out of the tragedy of the deaths of civilians.

DEAR DRONE WILL PAY OFF FOR HALF AN HOUR NORMAL BATTLE

- In addition to the drones, what else owns the enemy of what you are missing?

From what I can see, they have a number of arms increases. First of all, call of electronic intelligence, in particular, those same drones. We for all time not worked with drones in principle. The fire for the drone should not always but very often.

Funds adjustments need to save money and time. Guess we don't shoot, we need the calculation of the ballistic projectile. You often hear that drone is big money and we don't need. For a moment aside patriotism and take a calculator, consider how much the cost of the drone will be repulsed. And it turns out that it will pay off for half an hour normal combat!

How do you such calculations conducted?

- The cost of one shot is officially considered to be about 2.5 thousand UAH. But it is estimated that the Kalashnikov is 800 UAH, whereas in real life he is worth 10 thousand. So the real price should be multiplied by 20. Harmacy ammunition 42 of the projectile. Sometimes we made it the whole day. So, count how many Ukrainian people cost price of the work of the artillery.

Having the exact calculation, we use the least amount of projectiles. For example, we have a goal to get in the window, so that the projectile flew straight to the table some of the Russian-fascist invader. If you shoot on a tip of a spotter, even if it's good, instead of two shells will spend eight. Also it takes time: while the saw until called headquarters, then osvoilsea us... Time has passed, this Russian-fascist invader had finished his sandwich and left. We get in the window, and there is none. But if there were flying our drone... first, from its very kind of sandwich would be the enemy in the throat, and secondly, it arrived promptly from us Hello.

- And what is holding us back from buying reconnaissance?

- Soviet army that we, the volunteers, are trying to destroy from within, and the inability to rationally spend money. The staff think what to buy for their money: "Well let's get some socks and mats". And when our commanders are asked to articulate the real needs of those says that everything is there. This is because they were taught: if you have the requirements, I will do them. Why to voice the needs of the commander of the battery, if he does then it will look for? In fact, the software must make use of special services, today this burden upon himself took volunteers.

SOME SOLDIERS IN ALL SERIOUSNESS ASKED, WHY DO WE NEED THE RADIO, IF POSSIBLE FLAGS WAVING

- Know that you are with colleagues, themselves develop the improvement of adjustment of fire. Tell us specifically about this.

- Want to create a wireless connection on the positions and the automatic calculation for each gun. This can be done using any Android device. Today, the senior officer of the battery gives their calculations to the commanders of guns, and for them they should make their calculations. At night, it is generally difficult: while we run to the guns, the officer on the run, privativa flashlight, should all these calculations should be made. But it is also a time! When the automatics all information will be immediately visible on the screen: we don't need to spend the time to ask the commander if poorly heard. At first, some soldiers in all seriousness asked, why do we need the radio, if possible flags to wave. You can have a field telephone cable in the position to deploy. And even better to call on a mobile phone! Then they saw that the radio was very effective.

- Bring your project to life will be through volunteers?

- Don't rule that out. The volunteer system has shown very good, it works really needs. It should take more than a source of support. The cooperation of the army and volunteers - this is a direct mechanism of action: each do what we can, in its place. Citizens want the Russian fascist invaders stopped somewhere beyond the Ural mountains or at least on the border, I think that it is necessary and gather all necessary for the army. The troops said "thank you" and invaders sent to the graveyard.
You need to remove from our picture of the world of the feudal state, and be based on civil society. In 2005, we have spent your chance, now become smarter.

- In addition to communication and technology, what else needs artillery today?

What we birthplace could give, she gave. Official rules allowances scarce, this is the level of the 1960's. Food provided by 52 cents a day. The outfit is designed only for service in the outfits at the headquarters.

The needs of all the different parts. We - gunners - live in the woods, people don't see, so go with beards, appearance is not important for us. The national guard on the contrary dressed with gloss. For them, this is because they communicate with people. In any case, military equipment we have acquired. So computing remains a major need.

- Gunners deploy its position, probably in the most severe conditions in an open field when a record frosts. As stand this?

The solution to this question is no. No understandyou or superbullet that can withstand a record frost and strong wind. To be 24 hours in the cold people can't. You could dig a trench, but engineering technology virtually none. With volunteers, we discussed this issue, there is an idea to buy excavator: it takes a minimum of fuel, mobile, and easy to disguise.

Today we need to think further on how to dig bunkers, to build a railroad town. At this time our army it will not pull. The trailer is designed for 10 people costs 100 thousand UAH. Such amount from the budget for 10 people will not. But these requirements still need to push - start the idea for the future.

OUR GOAL IS NOT TO FRIGHTEN, NOT TO DRIVE AWAY, NAMELY, TO DESTROY THE ENEMY

- After such hard conditions, the system of rotation should also be well thought out.

I don't know exactly what kind of rotation system in other types of troops. In the infantry soldiers sent to the rotation of the parts. It seems to me that it would be more efficient and artillery. In one of our division to go on vacation for one calculation. But in other cases, the rotation guide the battery in full. Still, here we are compactly mobilized almost all of the Zaporozhye region. As for me, the best three weeks to be in the field, one at home, than three months in the war, and then one at home. Came, washed, drank beer, then had a look at Facebook, went to visit - and you can go to war. When you sit at home for a month, I think: "What am I doing here"? Someone else will say the opposite, that it is better to serve just six months. So this question must be discussed.

- Know when one battery commander refused to go home, although he had pneumonia.

Blame, of course, he himself was drawn to the last, because they understood that there is nobody to replace him. As a military - acted heroically. However, we do not have much explanatory commanders to squander them.

- Return to the root of the problem: where to take them?

- One answer is to motivate. I pay RS 2400 and 3000 UAH Atasnya. Some would say that it's good money, but I don't think so. Now a decent salary for a soldier must be in the area of 15 thousand for the officer even higher. So the army came young and motivated people who will be responsible and professional in carrying out their work. Officers we now quantitatively not enough. Colonels very good, but the officer link below suffers. Now the pensioners got shoulder straps and free fighting. My first battalion commander Alexander Franchuk. He deeply for 50, has undergone multiple surgeries. He was worried, seeing that the soldiers are not trained. First just gave advice to the gunners, then taught. Over the fact that now he fights for free.

- That is the conclusion You did from my own experience volunteer?

- Mobilization came the main number of combatants. Many volunteers are my age and younger. Fight we are definitely not worse than the contract, and if there is motivation, the army's fighting capacity will increase.

- Such ideological mobilized many volunteers?

- Enough. But it is no secret that encouraged many people who are completely unfit for military service. Because the military has remained the same Soviet system. Their goal is not to form a military unit, and to report on implementation. I was lucky in the military I was immediately accepted. And I know people who for three months was necessary, until they finally mobilized.

The military does not set itself the task to choose people with special knowledge and skills. We got people who don't have the artillery of thinking. Can assume that the gunners were in other genera of troops. Thinking of gunner is different from the thinking of a paratrooper: the objective of the landing to create a lot of noise, artillery finally resolve the issue. Roughly speaking, the gunners do not rush forward to attack and move away and make life enemy unbearable, and then destroy it. Our goal is not to frighten, not to hinder, but to destroy.

On the other hand, with conscription were people who in principle are not fit for military service because of his lifestyle.

- You say about the endemic problem of alcoholism? For artillery this is important as anyone else.

- Discipline depends on the command and General attitude. If initially, our battery was focused on that plump - bad, and the "dry law" was held. Among the soldiers come across people who to call frankly sinacilin. For the three months service at the front they changed their way of life beyond recognition. All thanks to the common opinion that those who drink - Swieta, in which case no rescue from the fire will not. It often worked.

But the global solution of the problem, where to put mobilized, which at best problematic, unclear. Have such problem soldiers to keep away from the front, but of power and resources spent on them: they are recorded in the state, paid, and dismissed from the shame they can't. I believe that the state is cheaper these people simply be removed from the army.

IT IS NOT NORMAL THAT THE UKRAINIAN MILITARY BRIGADES ARE SOVIET-NAZI NAMES

- There is hope that a new wave of mobilization will be more effective?

- I think we need to abolish the military. Using the same Facebook all Patriotic-minded commanders garmat could be collected during the week. But the military does not know how this system works. Recruitment agencies would cope with this task perfectly.

Yes, generally you need to escape from the Soviet army. Many military personnel are still living ideas "medioevali" and the Soviet red banner. I find it disgusting: I am a Ukrainian soldier, not Soviet. It is not normal that the Ukrainian military brigades are Soviet-Nazi names. Soviet habits today aboutsa that commanders often not ashamed of what to demand, and to ask for what is supposed to increase the combat readiness of their units.

- The officer is morally difficult to ask.

-It's not just "ask-don't ask." It is necessary in General to get away from poloveckogo views about Soviet pride about all zukovich, suworowii and so on. Because we chose to live in another country. Our ancestors have fought and already in heaven. I have a lot of disagreement with the grandparents, I'm from a generation of people razvalilsa the Soviet Union. And now our war is not with Russia but with the Soviet Union and with the silly idea of Slavic unity. At the same time, Russians are the most affected people, because they all took. Russianness for them - not Dostoevsky and the Nord, and Olivier and "Irony of fate". So now we have the final decision of the Soviet question.

Olga Scorohod, Censor.NET

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