The repentant captured Russian officers; about cowardice and courage on the front lines; what the chaplain and women volunteer, and much more - in a direct and uncompromising interview "Censor.NET"

About the woman in the enthusiastic words speak to all who know her. "Tanya", "Tanya", "our Tanya": persons Express tenderness, loyalty, respect. It is worth to say out loud "Rychkova in danger!" and hundreds of people will drop everything and rush to her aid. So help everyone, but only very special people. Generally, the people who are ready to help you immediately, without hesitation.

We sit with volunteer "Wings of the Phoenix" by Tatiana Rychkovoy in one of Kyiv café. Next sat himself "Phoenix - known Yuri Biryukov. "Speak, speak, I'm not going to interfere," he says. I look tired, but with amazing bright eyes Rychkovoy and ask the first question.
After the Minsk agreements receipt of volunteers has decreased dramatically. Some twice, some several times. People simply believed the word "armistice". Tell me what should happen to the volume of these revenues is at least partially returned to the summer performance? That should start the war?

 So the war she continued. Only about less began to speak, because people are tired. But still every day there are wounded and dead, the bombings continue our territory. Nobody was going to put up! On the same Sand, the same Donetsk airport there are constant fire from mortars, Grad. Yesterday - 7 killed. What truce?!
"AT THE FRONT MOST OF ALL LISTEN TO CHAPLAINS AND WOMEN"
- What do you think, volunteers and journalists have some way to reach out to people who don't sent the army?
- You just tell the truth. And we already don't want people to hear about the war. Absolutely do not want! We have a huge amount of entertainment on TV. And one guy 3 months, crawled at best, and filmed real history as well as on channels not want captured them in the ether to start! Not a single television took!
- And what do they say?
They say that we do not need it, the people are tired, we will drop the ratings...
- And what do you think of the word "truce" on the front?
"Yes sir, they do their work, fulfill orders, to protect their Homeland. They have no time to read there, truce - no truce...Everyone is fighting for the country, for his family.
- I have a friend coming from the zone ATO home on leave, two days later I went back. Says can't watch on a full, happy life, selfish people...
- ...And no one can be here! I have the guys from the hospital ran away and went to the front! And I couldn't keep. Except that the notion of sleeping bags, which they must seek; on the machines that they must distill; that I need them in the rear. See, what's the matter? Guys are not able to be here! They look like all fun, fun...basically, they then fight that everyone was having fun, having fun, living their lives. But it is very hard to watch. Although it is clear that it is human nature to think about themselves, about their health, about the family. And often he does not want to look truth in the eye.
"You, Dana Spring, Galina center is ranked among the 100 most influential women of the magazine "Focus". Say that in this war woman doing better than men?
- At the front of chaplains listen to, but more reason to listen to women (smiles. - E. K.). I have the guys with whom I jump in the trench, climb good, many of them have lost their friends and just was afraid to go further. Telling the truth as it is. Approached kombatan and said, "We are afraid, we're not moving on. Next to me was a friend, he'd been hit, I don't got, I want to live".
All want to live, Yes? And I go with them, talk to them as much as he wants to talk. And then he gets up and goes on. Because he sees that the woman is...
-...and you need to match?
- Yes. On some it works, for someone-no, cowards also quite everywhere...we had guys that have unfolded jumped in the ride and ran.
- And never returned?
- Did not return. Well, not everyone something to endure.
- I had a chance to get acquainted with your own chaplain of the 25th airborne brigade...
"Oh, we have such a great chaplain...
- Nikolai? I remember his story about the healthy man, the commander, who sobbed on his chest: "Father, I had 18 people and left 8. How to live?!".
- We have 8 left, Yes. And after eight remained alone. We have one mouth left one person...
Yes, it is very difficult psychologically. But, nevertheless, the majority of people out there who, you know, why they go. It can be seen even from the outside. Now, come reconnaissance team from other teams, and was told that after a hard fight people came to the place where too restless to relax after four days of sweeps. And these people went black as the clouds, because they have lost friends, people with whom many months they fought shoulder to shoulder; each other covered. They were black - and the next morning they had to go to the Zhdanovka or Uglegorsk. And again to lose loved ones.

"In August at the front killed the husband - volunteer Vadim Rychkov. Photo from a page in Facebook Tatiana Rychkovoy. The inscription reads: "Not wanted on sad. But the medal I got. Posthumously given the rank of captain.
And these scouts, they say: "We thought that they would not stand up and at 4 in the morning it won't work because it was the mourning of the whole camp. But to our surprise, half of the fourth all in full combat readiness was sitting on the technique and were ready to go into battle. And let's go!".
"I HAVE MANY PEOPLE FROM RUSSIA HELP. AND THEY ARE AGAINST THE WAR. BUT THEY ARE AFRAID OF THE HEAD LIFT"
- Where do people find the motivation to do this?
- I think, at the expense of their families and loved ones. Through friends that go together with them. They are already working specific groups and say: "If I would not go, how from the hospital to the front running guys? If not me, then who Petya will cover?".
See, they already are one big family. And it is here, in the rear, there is a semitone. And there - in black and white. There is an enemy, and it is your friend. And you can turn my back on him. No meanness, no hypocrisy. And here it is. Therefore, they are not able to be here.
- The soldiers were told that the situation simplifies that, say, in the rear have to make many decisions. And on the front there is an order, which eliminates many of the fluctuations...
- Yes, it's true.
But how then this war bounces on the man in the rear! One of the commanders of the 25th was telling me, I came home and went to sleep on the bed with two small children. Next morning woke up under the bed...
- Yes, I know, you're talking about. When they came out from under the Bottom of the Jugs (town near Makeevka, where many battles were fought. - E. K.), we sat in the headquarters tent, where our staff, the brigade commander - people who also fought, were ontogeny...And it was late evening, we turned on the music. And you know, I thought that the military, the Marines only listen to "Blue", "Blue berets"or something else like that. They listened normal rock: " Scorpions ", " Queen ". And we just talked until two o'clock in the morning. They showed pictures of their children, letters from them. And this commander was not very long their children - and then had two kids. And when passed by the chaplain, he asked to bring pictures of his children. And these pictures are then carried in the discharge.
And the other military headquarters - three children. And he showed them the drawings. And I did not dare to put it in Facebook, although persons I did not...
"What was on those figures?
Ukrainian girl in a t-shirt and a Russian boy who pull each other's hands. The soldier said, "Here, look: they know that I fight, what's going on here. But, nevertheless, they want to here was the world, that Russian, Ukrainian were together." And he is of Russian origin, but says: "Yak same W I these padlock hate has become!". To this extent, brought the people!
Although a lot of people from Russia help me. And they are against this war. But they are afraid of the head to raise...
And how many Russian military I've seen! Military tickets, with the rest of the...
- Prisoners?
- Prisoners, Yes. Who taught Saparov to work with artillery, "thirtieth", "Grad", "Noname"...
- In the arrangement of their forces you to watch could not, but still: mood and tone they have, I think, has changed?
- (ironically) Oh, they one day want to have to move to our side, saying that they are completely wrong, that they were wrong. Despite the fact that none of them does nothing, as it shows Russian TV channels.
"I'll say the hard thing. Many of the residents of Donbass - infantile people who want to live in the Russian World - but to the wages they were paid Ukraine...
- ...And I'll explain what this people. Such people are everywhere, but there's more. These are people who are like parasites accustomed to live at someone else's expense and I don't want to hit a finger. If you want to live a normal life - work. Do you have a headache? work head. Hands? work with your hands. And there are many who think so: "I was fired from the mine, and I'm sitting in retirement in his private home grown cucumbers, but it is not enough, will come this uncle Putin, all will be well, we will increase the pension, and we will live in Paradise." But this does not happen! These are people who used to live on the ball". And such people fully.
"And you drew attention to the fact that the causal connection they already have been mixed up? They think that first came to Bandera, and then...
- ...Yes they normally brainwashed. And these movies about the war that we did not want to show...And Russia works very well propaganda. They information us water. You this Seversky song heard: "get Up, Donbass!"?
- No, the God of mercy.
"Well, what are you, her every 5 minutes was broadcast on radio! There could be zombies very quickly! And have you heard at least one Patriotic song? (Well, except Vakarchuk, and Yes it is about love). No! Their not! Well, okay, let them at least will be PSN Schulich strlct...
- Actually, there is a well-known song "Warriors of light". However, wrote it Belarusians...
"But this is not about that! Here, we Yura ("Phoenix".- E. K.) would like to musicians and singers made an appeal to the guys who stand at the Donetsk airport and in the ATO. I called all the channels. I remember it was such a project: "Skhid - Zahid time"? Wanted to do something like that. Said, "Now, there's such a cool idea...". What? Nobody did anything! And just today, I was just VEGACAL, and now will do. But already a month has passed!
"And where are you calling?
"1+1, STB, ICTV. All of our " proud kanali, in addition to the "inter".
May be worth a go with the other hand and apply directly to the singers and musicians?
"Oh, I have no time! May cost...
"WANTED TO SEND WOUNDED IN ITALY. NO ONE WENT! FOUND A BUNCH OF "EXCUSES"..."
One physician said to me, looking at months of sitting without rotation of fighters: "good, these people need now in the rear, to the resort with families. And so they walked through the alleys hands with his wife and children. And that worked with them psychologists."
"You know what? I found all these agencies, resort areas of Western Ukraine. You think one of them went there? No! They all won in the brigade. Although they leave Dali - who 10 days, to 15.
- Is it much?
"No, well, sorry, we need to get ATO, repair technique. And it is clear that commanders will still be with his soldiers. But those seriously wounded, who were in recovery - I and they were offered, I have people in Italy were ready to take...

 - And what?
No one went! Found a bunch of "excuses".
- And in the form of order?
- And how will you order? The brigade commander will order? Order this cannot be a priori.
I offered them already and with the wives said. What I only did is useless, all in vain. They team go!
Im there and home, and family?
- Yes. Will not do anything. The military is such people...I got used to it much, but he is quite specific. I just childhood with the military, so it's easier for me. My dad is a military officer, engineer-rocketeer. On the ground there lived, I have become accustomed from childhood that we have a long table, a lot of military around the table, and I climb under the table.
So my dad even can not stand! Now machines book - and: "so...no, no...straighter...no, askew!". My dad, former military, and then could not resist: "Tell her that..." and off it went (laughs. - E. K.).
My dad is 77, behind him airborne. And he grumbles, "If not for the age, he would have gone to the front...".
- My dad is already in the 25th time (laughs)! I said, "You age is not suitable! Will not go!".
- Dad, how many years?
- 56-year of birth. "And kinds of troops such, " I say haven't already. Nuclear weapons have no!".
- Let us return to the question of psychologists in the army. They are really lacking on the front and rear?
- We need chaplains. If allowed to have a chaplain in each brigade...this is our chaplain, Nicholas - company Binn generally, stunning! As he grenades were obvisoulsy is to see it was!
I talked with him, he himself from the Moscow Patriarchate, fell on the front, not saying anything to his superiors...

"Listen, I have all the whine brigade commander: "Give us this chaplain, let me, let it be with the team". The whole team - I and he. From a Cup of coffee for me in the evening already way started. Because one went walked, with the second coffee drank, with the third sat and talked to him, you know? And he the same. And they all stew in this mess.
"MANY GENERALS DURING THE YEAR GO TO HOSPITAL, THEY WILL NOT BE REMOVED. THERE'S MANY TRICKS"
For all this time you had the opportunity to meet with senior officials and top politicians. One of them disappointed, and who, on the contrary, I was pleasantly surprised?
"Yes, to be honest, I never much politics were not interested. And always tend all to see the good. Then pay for it (laughs. - E. K.). Well, those are the people I've met in the Ministry, the General staff is usually normal people. But goats are, I admit, was caught. I hope that they will be removed eventually, because they're too old.
- On the box, which should be removed. The soldiers told me about some of the representatives of the higher command. Arrived this soup for the front, shouted at all, the choice - and back again until the shooting started. The decision is inadequate, stupid. People are dying because of it, and sometimes doing something that actually looks like betrayal. And these soldiers, I say, "We have wanted to come with him to understand. But at the last moment changed his mind - war all the same".
I what to tell you. Now you have known for volunteers, there are now exits at the top. How often do you bring to this command, there are people in the wrong place?
At these words the conversation takes Yuri Biryukov, aka "Phoenix".
- Weekly.
And how many shot?
Y. B.:- the Minister of defence, for example.
It's cool, but still?
T. R.: " And many sit on party work, they can not be removed. Many a year go to the hospital, they will not be removed. Tricks there are many.
Y. B.:- we Have a very humane country. If people on sick leave, it is impossible to dismiss.
T. D.:- (With bitter irony) And now the war, no one is fired, all the generals needed.
Y. B.:- in our country there is no bench, and including no bench of the Minister of defence. No store ready solutions. After all Maidan decided: well, we all changed, everything became cool, nobody steals. (Sarcastic tone. - E. K.). No one violates the rules of the road. In our country, the traffic police are not needed - yet go strictly with a speed of 60 km/hour, Yes?
In fact, the country has not changed a single gram! Changed the consciousness of tens of thousands. Well, I would be very optimistic - several hundred thousand people. And that's all!
T. R.: " And how many patriots who say: "Go to work - only you there will be lots to do, lots to plow for the benefit of the Motherland, but few get. And I think you're going?
Y. B.: " we are In a funny situation. Now, on Monday (the conversation took place at the weekend. - E. K.) we formally introduce these 12 "sidenote"who go to work in the Ministry of defence. Some of them are volunteers. Now, the salary of civil servant about 1300 UAH. And we with David Arakhamia decided that I would create a separate project - "public official". And will be open to raise money, and this 12 open to pay. But only to officially pay, withholding of income tax.
When I wrote about this, rose howl. Like, "Oh, why pay taxes, don't you can the card be removed and give them nothing? Why does this country have to pay taxes?".
In short, a revolution of Dignity donated to make the revolution of the Law...
"GONE TO THE PARLIAMENT COMMANDERS OF THE VOLUNTEER BATTALIONS IN THE FACE SAYING THAT THEY " ABANDONED"
- Tell me, both of you have suggested to go for the MPs?
Y. B.: Of Course!
T. R.: " Yes, almost everything. Even in the top five.
- And what did you answer?
T. D.:- Fuck!
And they probably asked: why? They are experienced negotiators able to persuade...
T. R.: " And I say, "In the country by the war. Not the time or place."

 - Well, how do you feel about those who still went to the Parliament?
T. D.:- to Each his own. For example, kombatan volunteer battalions I have repeatedly and in person say that they were deserters. They ended the war? They boys his throw? (With irony). No, they will all change in the Verkhovna Rada"! Our Dnepropetrovsk Birch said: "I have thought about your words. Probably, I will refuse." I say "Well". And that was refused? No!
Yes deserters they. And they don't like me. Well, God is with them. But they threw their. For them, it means that the war was over.
- Tanya, I will ask thee a generic and at the same time, the specific question: what is your current goal in life?
T. D.:- (thinks). The main goal in life? To be happy. And that my baby was happy. To end this nightmare, and I could live in this country peacefully, with confidence in the future. Because I'm here not going to leave. And I try to do that way. Trying to influence something.
"FROM WHAT THE MEDIA FANNING THE HYSTERIA WITH THE ADVENT OF PUTIN, THEY DO THE ARMY, ONLY WORSE"
- Tell me, as the guys at the front took all these rumors to say, on Sunday, Putin will begin full-scale attack...
T. R.: " Oh, we already had that in Debaltsevo. We tanks waited a hundred-about-Liko! And they ask: "Really? Not true?". I said, "Yes true, calm down, calm down. No tanks there ahead of people who, if anything, will report whether the tanks". And my kids calmed down. But about Grinich - can't say.
Y. B.: " I now say very unpopular things, and then I as always will pour the slop. In our country the media for the most part...sorry, I know what you...
- ...Okay, go ahead.
Y. B.:- now the media, unfortunately, is either completely stupid, or do not work in Ukraine. After all, what media do in terms of...well, I'm not going to say "at war". Because now is not a war. And all these people (I call them "visualname"), shouting: "This is not the ATO, this is war" - they, fortunately, I don't know what war was. War is when Kiev bombed. From morning till evening. And not only Kiev and all regional centers. And now we have a local - and, thanks to this truce, relative to the frozen conflict. No more than that. And from what the media inflate this hysteria, they do worse in the first place, the army itself.
Why?
Y. B.: Yes because maybe Sunday will be offensive, and probably will not. And, perhaps, it will be on Monday. And perhaps it will not.
Well, imagine I'm sitting the day before yesterday night at the Donetsk airport. Nerves are on edge all the guys who were in there. And he fought all day and night climbs in the Network (there's a little bit of Internet), comes in a social network, news to read, girls show, somehow brainwashed myself clear. And here with the screen of his smartphone it pours a stream of consciousness of our media...

"From Facebook Yuri Biryukov: was challenged, the challenge was accepted. Because Rychkova Tatiana busy at home with his brigade, and we Sarcasim already have experience corticopontine the task, we did. Day at the airport, shoulder and shoulder with Cyborgs. Brought a bunch of humanitari (including proved very popular with our long-standing project will be a surprise to searam), ate cake and talked, fought".

T. R.: " ...And when all that about the real state of things not to say. On the contrary, they let people on the Internet don't need the information. Internet picks up and then starts to panic moms: "Take our children!". They call, dragonet boys...
Y. B.: - (imitates a panicked scream). "Look, war is coming!". Yes we know that it is. It will be sometime, sooner or later, this conflict will flare up with renewed vigor. The army knows it.
I cheer these reposts on Facebook: "so there is something noticed a column of tanks, immediately pass the information to the headquarters ATO!"...
T. R.: " the headquarters of the ATO does not know where is a column of tanks...
"Well, it's the cost that each was himself a journalist.
Y. B.: " Yes! And if the headquarters ATO will take this information seriously, then you need the entire staff of the ATO immediately be fired. Because it means that they are the absolute degenerates who will build an army operation on Facebook. Yes, even if there will be a million posts, it is objective, confirmed information? Well, don't hurt our army!
From panic Amateurs turn to the holidays. Soon the New Year, and thousands of soldiers in the area ATO will meet him in the cold, in the snow and in a bad mood. How you can help our military worthily to celebrate the New year?
T. R.: " Well, since this will be the Year of the Goat, I had one woman sewed two obaldennaha goats - the girl and the boy. The boy - this blue airborne t-shirt and it says: Fri FSO. And guys there at the airport, already beautifully dressed Christmas toys, the rain...

Military this Christmas tree...
T. R.: " Yes, this military do not understand that (laughs). Well, get ready slowly...I will not say that they all are there with a bad mood. Yes, they will want to families, this family-holidays - New Year, Christmas. But it has happened that at the moment they have another family - their sister.
And I think all will be well. And we to them will come in any case. I already knew that the New year for me anyway, to celebrate in the zone ATO (laughs).
Eugene Kuzmenko to Censor.NO
In the preparation of the material used photo from the pages of Tatiana Rychkovoy.
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