The public activist and the volunteer Alexey Mochanov told about why does not leave the guitar even on a front line, about errors of the Ukrainian patriotic promotion, and also that not all fighters – heroes.

Its interview were published by the Ipress portal.

Recently you had a birthday, and the famous Ukrainian artist Yury Zhuravel drew your portrait with a guitar and the machine gun behind shoulders. You still have time, out of volunteer work, on creativity?

My volunteering is, first of all, a guitar, but not toilet paper, "Ural federal district", coffee, "Tseloks" or some other things. Here all this history with opposition between Ukraine and aggressors of DNR and LNR whom Russia finances began, and I insist on such formulation because all tell us about war with Russia and thousands of corpses of the Russian special troops and kadyrovets, but nobody can show at least to one photo.

So Alexey Mochanov was seen by the artist Yuriy Zhuravel.

Therefore let's call things by their proper names - there are villains who try to break away a piece from the country and sit on a salary in the Kremlin. But the bulk is locals and mercenaries, but not some kadyrovets.

I stood in mayors of Kiev on May 25 when events in the Crimea began, we gradually threw to children money for cards, bought telephone packages, and I spoke to nobody about it that it did not turn into pre-election public relations. We then for the first time did a bit of traveling on the Kiev hospitals, in particular, in hospital of frontier guards on Yagodnaya Street, in irpensky hospital, played concerts, communicated with children, happened in parts which sent to the South, to the Kherson area. Here so I with a guitar also came to this war and it still never left.

And when went to a front line?

On June 2 we went to Raisin where on a post there were my familiar GAI officers and former "Berkut officers". Took a guitar, cigarettes, chocolate, nuts. And I sang songs there. Then there was the first fight. As it appeared, a dog passed "extension", there was an explosion. All were on nerves, started shooting from everything that only was. Then it seemed real war. People prepared for an exit to the Red Estuary and, of course, all were on nerves.

I then communicated to children, learned that is necessary, and to the following trip I loaded the car even more. We then went together, and the main task was to communicate, talk, calm. Children from militia who stood in Raisin, spoke: "go further, there the desantura costs which does not have anything".

My third trip was on June 13 when Poroshenko arrived there to sign the first truce. Then I went already on the minibus, and we much that brought to children from the 95th crew. Since then mine of a beads nayezdit 40 thousand km on "front".

How many we would not bring, guys always asked: and you took a guitar? It was necessary to play concerts and on steps of armored personnel carriers, in Sand under the bridge at a fire, on the mountain Karachun was four times under mortar attacks.

I still hope and I believe that I will be called there first of all by children to communicate. It not concerts, and such to themselves creative evenings - talked, sang. People have to understand that those who carries the help, is only carriers and to call them volunteers, to say that on them everything keeps, not absolutely correctly. Everything keeps in public which chip in together money which react to requests something to bring, find necessary things, buy them, socks, caps knit, spin camouflage grids. It is not necessary to overestimate our role. If not people in the back, we would bring nothing there. The respect is deserved by the grandmother who knits socks, people who all village collect on balakalav. In Lviv there is an Akropolis firm which transferred to the front of 12 guitars. And we brought to a guitar front line, a set of strings, the tuner. Children are glad to such gifts. All passing, and music - is eternal.

It is a pity that there were less concerts for which money because all charity concerts, and it is necessary to live for something pay. We learn to turn very much and we become slowly lvovyana.

From where you know, what to the lvovena?

I served in Lviv in border troops, and anything Lvov is not alien to me. Syanki, Turca, Old Sambor, Shegini - Lvov areas I know everything, it is pleasant to me.

Your offer to be given in captivity to "Givi" got some response?

Unfortunately, no. At me really friends were taken prisoner. I know someone from these paratroopers, someone knows me. That party (separatists. – The edition) constantly tries to find out, it is casual not the "Right sector" and National guard to them got. Though I am still convinced that the role of National guard and "The right sector" in this opposition is very strongly exaggerated.

Why?

At everyone the function and, certainly, children perfectly do the work, they are heroes. But the National guard and "The right sector" work within certain powers, carrying out certain functions. National guard - from protection and ensuring capacity of posts on roads and adjacent territories, and "the Right Sector" still did not receive the status that allows to own officially the weapon and to appear in structure though what department. As a matter of fact, they now as guerrillas. All the same now the main military loading on divisions of Armed Forces of Ukraine, then the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and only then National guard, voluntary battalions and "The right sector".

We learned about that Kuzminykh took children together with the colonel prisoner in Konstantinovka when with Volodya Parasyuk stopped at gas station to refuel (Mochanov and Parasyuk overtook from Lviv the cars bought by the abroad for needs of military in the east. - Red).

And I tried to understand all road to Krasnoarmeysk that occurs at me in soul. I am sure that we do much in order that boys stood there, and the infection did not go further. If we do everything in order that children could stand under bullets there, we have to make everything in order that they were not in captivity there.

Therefore I very much hope for diplomacy, for negotiations, but, unfortunately, our power shows the return. Perhaps, do not show us everything, but the fact remains: a large number of our children who were missing or were taken prisoner is a tragedy for the country. We saw on video as treat prisoners in the Red Guerrilla, and the same Mischa Tolstykh (the field commander of terrorists of "Givi". - An edition) in Donetsk.

I in general think that "Givi" and "Motorola" is two such purposely invented by the Russian promotion of the character. About the Russian promotion I speak with confidence because you saw when scoffed at our children, in a shot microphones of Lifenews TV channels, ORT, "Russia" stuck out. When you see video as the journalist of Lifenews interrogates the captured Ukrainian, such impression that it is a minimum the major of FSB, and his technician of work is least of all similar to interview.

I came to the Givi pages in social networks, through people who are engaged in release of prisoners, and through children, which on that party of barricades. I there, unfortunately, have some people whom I know from 90th years on motorsport. They were from Donbass and remained there - made such decision. Now if at each other to be spat and as it is accepted in the Ukrainian society not to hear each other but only to shout "down with" and "shame", you will achieve nothing. There real people, real destinies and my pain. I do not know that I would be ready to give to return children from captivity to bury the 200th, to take away wounded. I hope that the state does something for this purpose, but I not really trust in it - I love the country, and I despise the state.

How the person who often happens at the front, can objectively estimate official information on the victims which will publish the power, from both parties of the conflict?

It is very difficult for me to call some figures. Here I was in the terminal of the Donetsk airport with companions. We looked that there occurs, took out the wounded to whom I even gave an injection from tetanus. It is hard to say about losses. When in a tower of the airport stand the guy from "The right sector" and the paratrooper from the 79th crew, the volley of "Rapier" gets to a window, and they perish, fall on a floor and as brothers, exchange blood, I know that their two. And SNBO reports about one dead. I call Seleznyov and I ask: "How so? Their two! - At us "The right sector" is not considered because they have the uncertain status", - Seleznyov answers.

That is to sleep nearby - it is considered, there is canned food with red fish (sprats in a tomato. – The edition) together - is considered, to protect the homeland together - is considered and when at the same time perish, that, appears, one was at war, and the second - a ghost, the casual person.

Therefore I precisely know that figures which SNBO gives, are corrected. We live 23 years in the country where bootlickers upward make the way, and inconvenient people try to eliminate at the initial stage that they did not prevent companion director to perceive the world not such what it is, and such as he to himself thought up it. It is heavy to all of us to refuse from to ourselves the invented postulates because we already so everything got used, and to change the world around, the attitude towards him seems uncomfortable. Because if we start seeing really things and to tell each other the truth even then when it is inconvenient, and not to shout it in a face, and it is quiet and peaceful, everything will be differently. The behavior model of the country is very accurately visible on Savik Shuster's show. Every Friday there are people and shout at each other, anybody hears nobody. At Schuster never was so that the person came with one belief, and left with another.

Give me proofs when you shout of hundreds of the killed at the airport kadyrovets, special troops. I was at the airport and them did not see. Yes, there are some mercenaries from the Czech Republic, Poland, Russia, Cossacks... "Motorola" is Arseny Sergeyevich Pavlov from Ukhta, the Komi Republic. All call him the washerman, but before work on car wash it served in marines, and to be at war, the cattle, unfortunately, is able.

When we all country shout, what "Givi" and "Motorola" is two ridiculous the geek, ask about, whether it is ridiculous, what with these two geeks since May the regular Ukrainian army, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and SBU can make nothing? Perhaps, all is a little in a different way? I do not know exact losses, but it is sure that that tell us, is made almost up.

In the back there is such legend that failures of our troops is a result of timid command or inaction of command. There is also such opinion that if to our troops gave the order to come, in a week from the Russian army already would remain nothing. In your opinion, it so?

Now Russia participates in the conflict as is information, and by means of resources. "Grada", "Hurricanes", T-72 tanks, ammunition - all this Russian. But, as it will not be regrettable to recognize, human resources, generally is a local population which was fooled very qualitatively stories about nazis and the crucified boys.

The remarkable Russian satirist Victor Shenderovich when came to Lviv, wrote that is very disappointed because did not see any swastika on houses, people quietly talk in Russian, in park where veterans of unitary enterprise gather, it is less than them, than people who simply play chess. That is here such image of Lviv invented by the Russian promotion.

When we say that if our army rose, went to approach, would already hang up the flags in Rostov, we do not understand one - at any time the Russian army can join in these events the divisions, but not resources and "gumkonvoyam". Here dudes for whom one and a half billion a year which are ready to everything and which unfastened the Crimea from Ukraine without uniform shot are spent will come tearing along.

I would not idealize position of our troops. Now very big problem will be in March-April. From the front the children mobilized last year will return, and very small percent remains in army. I think that officials and corrupt officials will start throwing out simply from windows of offices because these children will not sustain to sit for hours per turns when reception is carried out on protection and on preliminary record. Officials will answer them that did not send them to war, and children will come "I was at war with philosophy, I have the right".

Social temperature will rise when 50 thousand people who passed through a war hearth at which a low threshold of tolerance, heightened sense of justice and moral guidelines are displaced return in the spring. For them to twist the head is how to kill a mosquito. Therefore let's cease behave as the Russian promotion in 1941 when Hitler was exposed the little fool. Only the question was why from parade on September 9 in Moscow troops went directly into battle on the suburb of the capital? How these little fools reached already Moscow?

On Donbass people who were raked qualitatively over the coals are at war. Same "Givi" not from the Caucasus, and from Ilovaysk. His name is Mikhail Sergeyevich Tolstykh. Therefore the part of those who is at war, costs on the earth - to someone paid, to someone raked over the coals.

"Giv" paid or raked over the coals?

It - a product of the Russian promotion which was collected qualitatively to a heap. But children, which there long ago, and those who from that party very validly speak of its military abilities. Yes, he is a villain and the bastard, as well as "Motorola", but he has the anti-tank division, there are tanks, they conduct battles. But he behaves as cattle. Especially, if it is about prisoners. The person has no conscience, but he is not a fool and not the moron. It swine, but swine professional. And among ours, unfortunately, idiots are enough.

For example?

All the time I remember Maidan times where I carried out 80 days and nights. And all these "who does not jump, that Russian", still some hogwash is obviously suited not us. Pay attention to "Heavenly one hundred". There, if I am not mistaken, 27 simple guys from "Freedom". But the top of "Freedom" as soon as Russia was not about what to talk, executed such that the Internet space then week could not calm down. Such impression that they somewhere received the instruction and accurately it carried out. I have many friends in "Freedom" at a grassroots level. With Markiyan, the head of Stryysky "Freedom" I on a post staid the whole night in Uglegorsk. I yours faithfully treat these people and those families which lost native in "Heavenly one hundred".

But above, for example, Farion as will blurt out something concerning Biryukov and his Russian... And at this time Unsociable persons is in the terminal of the airport and establishes surveillance cameras which help fighters, and here some miracle lyapat...

I agree with Zelensky who told once that if Farion appointed the Minister of Education, it would send at once the daughter to army. At us in the country the mutual responsibility and the principle "scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" works. If we cannot bring an order round ourselves and the friends how we can apply what we will bring an order to the country?

We talked to Yarosh, said that "The right sector" sharply needs service of internal security which will reveal idiots and bespr¾d¾lshchik_v among the and which will rigidly work concerning those companies which call themselves "The right sector", and under its banners create an arbitrariness, without having to this organization any relation.

Such divisions in "The right sector" already are, and they neutralized some criminal groups which worked, being covered with flags of "PS". They are already punished. And "The right sector" punishes rigidly. But, unfortunately, all have such services of internal security not.

And how you estimate actions of military command?

The Minister of Defence does not influence a situation as to him it try to attribute. The General Staff is guilty of Ilovaysk Geletey much less, than. Our structure of army is constructed so that the Minister of Defence is a rear business executive who provides requirements of the General Staff planning certain operations.

And than the 8th army case is engaged? Come into google and find it. The general Anatoly Pushnyakov and the general Victor Muzhenko were commanders of the case. Now one of them chief of the General Staff, other commander of land forces. From there the commander of the 95th separate airmobile crew, the colonel and the Hero of Ukraine Mikhail Zabrodsky undertook. Any paratrooper cannot understand why he is a hero.

Structure such that if you the, you get to system if is not present - the system throws out you, you the stranger. Appoint godfathers, as Stets at Poroshenko. Than the ministry of information is engaged? What did they block? Where decision on shutdown of propaganda channels? At us on each channel in news at first show mothers who mourn the sons, and then there are Russian series where the cop with a cockarde on which the two-headed eagle is represented, rushes across Moscow and looks for the bandit, at which surname on "-to".

I consider that one of the biggest mistakes of Petro Poroshenko is an absence of people whom he hears which would give it real information, but did not try to tell that he wants to hear.

When we said a year ago that Yanukovych the villain, any person could tell why he is a villain: brought Donetsk, it has a gold toilet bowl, and he brought the son into parliament. But in the three of claims there was a claim that it brought into parliament of the son. It was necessary to explain to Pyotr Alekseevich that ingenious his son would not be what, but so far he is a President, he cannot bring it into Rada, because this repetition of a mistake of Yanukovych. It gives reasons to people around to cease to trust it.

Unfortunately, he does not communicate with people. I in this plan like the mayor of Lviv Andrey Sadovyi who during revolution addressed every Sunday to people with the video address where there was some simple message of economic character. Not global, not in the spirit of "everything was gone" or "shche not a vmerla...", and the simple address about a situation in the city.

For some reason most does not do to Poroshenko? Why once a week does not address to people the Minister of Defence Stepan Poltorak? For what there was a Maidan? People did not accept system which was constructed by Kravchuk, Kuchma fixed, tried to loosen Yushchenko, and Yanukovych concreted. And part of people who after the Maidan got to the power, did not arrange only that in this system not of their surname. When they entered there, everything started suit their.

Whether the volunteer movement influences some processes?

I in general opponent of volunteering. In what we now are engaged is an attempt to construct system parallel to the state. And we do not need two systems. Also there is no volunteer community at us. There people each other help, but the volunteer movement has no general logistics. Tried to bring together several times volunteers, and volunteers thought to create the party in parliament. But I was at one such meeting and understood that volunteers for half a year will not agree about the one who and where will sit at a round table. At everyone the ambitions, it is also such social elevator. Yesterday you were anybody, and today the volunteer.

Volunteers do not influence processes. Without them it would be difficult. But also relatives very much help when their son, the husband, the brother takes the field. Buy to it a form, a helmet, a bronik, points, kneecaps. By the way, kneecaps very important element of protection. If you in fight began to be recharged on a knee and hit a patella own sleeves - everything, you are wounded and independently it will be very difficult to get out of fight. Volunteers do the part, but it is a guerrilla warfare, and guerrillas never won wars, it is auxiliary work.

Those volunteers who were included into the Ministry of Defence and the Ministry of Internal Affairs - will help, but will not solve a situation cardinally. Though some volunteers already inflate cheeks, consider that is the main force in the country, but it is a lie.

But there is a problem. For example, someone took some blocks of cigarettes, chocolate and went to military unit. It was let. We do not know that it for the person arrived. He unloaded the help, talked, saw an arrangement of military unit and can quietly draw its plan or the plan of a post, what equipment, quantity of staff there. Represent what is a gift for any scout? I on a place of that party simply would hold some volunteer groups that they rode posts and parts.

It is necessary that was as earlier when we came to any point, and we were already waited by paratroopers, for example. We came on check-point, to us left the truck, all overloaded. Children answered any questions: not your business. And I perfectly understood it. It is absolutely correct. Why to me to know military secrets? If I am caught and tortured, I will be better to say that I do not know when I really do not know, than that I handed over someone when to me prick serum of the truth or needle under nails to push.

Now donations decreased and needs of military decreased?

Of course, decreased, and especially it was noticeable before New year. At first there was the first falling of donations at the end of August. People should have brought together children in school. The second wave before New year because people wanted after all something on a table to buy and under a fir-tree. Children on a front at all not of the grabber - anybody superfluous or more, than it is necessary, will not ask. On the contrary will tell: go further, there children do not have this or that, give better to them.

Now there will be a new wave of mobilization, and there will be problems. Here we, for example, on a post brought three thermal imagers. Really enrages me why children who go for rotation, take away that to them volunteers brought with themselves. Same not to them personally gift. It on concrete point. Why children come there with one handbag in which there are a few things, and leave home with three bags in which try to push even canned food which were poprivozit by volunteers. We at this moment very rigidly enter the conflict to such people, we forbid them to take out the equipment from a dislocation place. At us for some reason it is considered that if you at the front - you are the hero if you in the back - you mudak. Other options are not present.

I draw that idiots, fools, drunkards, grabbers at the front as much, how many and in the back. If the person was such in civil life, on a front line it will not become another. There it everything is very quickly shown, and people behave normally. There always the person is near the weapon and it is terrible to do something not that, after all will shoot down and then will tell that tried to escape to separatists. But there too there are drunkards, and we have losses not only fighting.

Now they still manage to remove themselves on video by phone and to lay out on Youtube, and it seems to them very ridiculous. When you look at it - the fear takes. Why we have no military service of a law and order? Unfortunately, when the guy comes, for example, to Artemovsk and climbs the peace city with the machine gun, and still somewhere drank and poses as Rambo, it is necessary that the people arrested him.

And shtrafbata at us, unfortunately, too are necessary. There are different people. Women write "we pray for you, return live". And I consider that it is necessary to return not live, and with a victory. With a board or on a board as spoke in Sparta. I went with Marshall to do some shooting in a shooting gallery in Kiev. That on Facebook was written "we pray for you, return live". From where the live? From a shooting gallery? That we were not beaten by a paper target?

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